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 fatpie: Well as much as I'm glad you don't take your scripture seriously, I think you'll find that your moral law claims that my atheism is enough reason to give me the death penalty. 1. Present the scripture. 2. My view on the death penalty would be a political view, and more a stance on the amount of power I believe the government should have, rather than a religious stance on morality. 3. The Bible establishes and upholds Justice. It would be unjust for a man to take another man's life for a crime he committed against God. posted by stinkz |
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| in-my-opinion.orgPoliticsPolitics and Crime (Assorted topics)Is death penalty OK? |
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 stinkz: fatpie: Well as much as I'm glad you don't take your scripture seriously, I think you'll find that your moral law claims that my atheism is enough reason to give me the death penalty. 1. Present the scripture. 2. My view on the death penalty would be a political view, and more a stance on the amount of power I believe the government should have, rather than a religious stance on morality. 3. The Bible establishes and upholds Justice. It would be unjust for a man to take another man's life for a crime he committed against God. However, you must admit that the death penalty is also a religious stance, since religion, at least for Christian, should pertain to everyday life. And like you said, the Bible says that it would be unjust for a man to take another man's life for a crime he committed against God. So how can you think that it is just for the government (composed of men...and women, I suppose) to take another man's life for a crime he committed against God (since crimes such as murdering is obviously a crime in God's eyes, after all, the Ten Commandments were issues by God himself: "Thou shalt not kill."). posted by nocturnal_anonymous |
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 stinkz: fatpie: Well as much as I'm glad you don't take your scripture seriously, I think you'll find that your moral law claims that my atheism is enough reason to give me the death penalty. 1. Present the scripture. 3. The Bible establishes and upholds Justice. It would be unjust for a man to take another man's life for a crime he committed against God. Leaving you political views out of this I think you are going to have to give a better explanation for point 3. Leviticus 24:13-16 (New International Version)
Then the LORD said to Moses: "Take the blasphemer outside the camp. All those who heard him are to lay their hands on his head, and the entire assembly is to stone him. Say to the Israelites: 'If anyone curses his God, he will be held responsible; anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Whether an alien or native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death. posted by fatpie42 |
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 I'm basically in favor of the death penalty. But I think it should be applied sparingly. The threat of the death penalty is probably more useful than its actual application, especially considering all the avenues of avoiding the death penalty. posted by Tiefling |
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In the case of a crime of passion, people don't stop and think "I might be executed if I do this". I man comes home to find another man having sex with his wife, he attacks the man in rage and ends up killing him. Was the man really likely to be stopped by a death penalty law? It also worth noticing that the crime rate of murder is higher in America than in most (if not all) countries without the death penalty. You don't think there is something inherently vicious about the general American mentality do you? posted by fatpie42 |
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The death penalty isn't applied (here, at least) to murders in a fit of passion. posted by Tiefling |
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fatpie42: Leviticus 24:13-16 (New International Version)
Then the LORD said to Moses: "Take the blasphemer outside the camp. All those who heard him are to lay their hands on his head, and the entire assembly is to stone him. Say to the Israelites: 'If anyone curses his God, he will be held responsible; anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Whether an alien or native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death. This passage is taken from the old testiment and under the levitical law the punishment for many of their sins was death. Such as murder, adultury, etc. But now since Christ died for our sins, we are no longer under the law but under grace... ...Joh 8:3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, Joh 8:4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Joh 8:5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? Joh 8:6 * This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. Joh 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. Joh 8:8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. Joh 8:9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. Joh 8:10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? Joh 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more. So no, the bible does not tell us that your atheism is enough for us to give you the death penalty posted by zero |
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 fatpie42: You don't think there is something inherently vicious about the general American mentality do you? Yes, the secret water poisoning. Never say 
The problem with death penalty is so many innocent are enprisoned. posted by knn |
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knn: The problem with death penalty is so many innocent are enprisoned. If death was always deserved I would have no problem with it, but the fact is in our judicial system today who can be sure... posted by zero |
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zero: This passage is taken from the old testiment and under the levitical law the punishment for many of their sins was death. Such as murder, adultury, etc. But now since Christ died for our sins, we are no longer under the law but under grace... Murder, I will accept, was punishable by death. However, I should like you to show me the passage where adultery is said to have the same punishment (I do not doubt that such a passage exists, but I should like to see it). I was of the impression that the "eye for an eye, tooth for tooth" teaching meant that in the cases such as adultery or homosexuality there could be no death penalty. Certainly these were both sins according to the old Jewish law, but I was not aware that adultery was considered worthy of the death penalty according to the law of Moses. posted by fatpie42 |
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fatpie42: Murder, I will accept, was punishable by death. However, I should like you to show me the passage where adultery is said to have the same punishment (I do not doubt that such a passage exists, but I should like to see it). You get the death penalty in Saudi-Arabia for drinking alcohol (e.g. beer). posted by knn |
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knn: You get the death penalty in Saudi-Arabia for drinking alcohol (e.g. beer). What has that got to do with the price of fish? posted by fatpie42 |
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Kill all I say Kill all posted by Bob Smith |
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When are we going to get serious about the problem of contraception among youth? First of all, it prevents some sexually-transmitted disease (never a good thing, keeps people out of heaven); Second of all it kills all the little babies that live in sperm; And, thirdly, it prevents unwanted childbirth (there is a population shortage on Earth)! What do you all think the penalty should be for spermicide? posted by footloosifer |
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 I wish child molesting jerks'd get death penalty  posted by a |
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