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By TIM MOLLOY, Associated Press Writer Quote: LOS ANGELES - A spokesman for Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (news - web sites) said Sunday that the governor would not apologize for calling lawmakers "girlie men," despite criticisms from Democrats that the remark was sexist and homophobic.
Schwarzenegger dished out the insult at a rally Saturday as he claimed Democrats were delaying the budget by catering to special interests. "If they don't have the guts to come up here in front of you and say, 'I don't want to represent you, I want to represent those special interests, the unions, the trial lawyers ... if they don't have the guts, I call them girlie men," Schwarzenegger said to the cheering crowd at a mall food court in Ontario. The governor lifted the term from a long-running "Saturday Night Live" skit in which two pompous, Schwarzenegger-worshipping weightlifters repeatedly use it to mock those who don't meet their standards of physical perfection. and so the democrats prove his point... Quote: Democrats said Schwarzenegger's remarks were insulting to women and gays and distracted from budget negotiations. State Sen. Sheila Kuehl said the governor had resorted to "blatant homophobia."
"It uses an image that is associated with gay men in an insulting way, and it was supposed to be an insult. That's very troubling that he would use such a homophobic way of trying to put down legislative leadership," said Kuehl, one of five members of the Legislature's five-member Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Caucus. "It's ironic that the governor would try to find a metaphor for weakness when his real problem is that we're being too strong," she added. Schwarzenegger's criticism of Democrats stems in part from their support of one bill prohibiting schools from contracting services with private companies, and another giving workers authority to sue their employers to enforce labor laws. Each side accuses the other of caving in to special interests. At a rally Sunday in Stockton, the governor gave a speech almost identical to the one he delivered in Ontario but without the "girlie men" remark. Spokesman Rob Stutzman said the line was dropped because Schwarzenegger had already sent the message he wanted to send, not because he regretted his remarks. "It's a forceful way of making the point to regular Californians that legislators are wimps when they let special interests push them around," Stutzman said. "If they complain too much about this, I guess they're making the governor's point." exactly... Quote: Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez, a Democrat, said that while he wasn't upset by the remark, his 13-year-old daughter was.
"She's a young girl who knows the governor and really likes him a lot and didn't find the term to be a positive term, and finds it to be derogatory," Nunez said. "It was no question a very, very insensitive comment to make. I personally am not intimidated or threatened by it, but I think it really is beneath Gov. Schwarzenegger." i forget is this jr high? or politics? posted by The ONEder Man |
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| in-my-opinion.orgPoliticsPolitics and Crime (Assorted topics)Schwarzenegger Calls Dems 'Girlie Men' |
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Quote: Democrats said Schwarzenegger's remarks were insulting to women and gays Uff, political correctness and baseless accusations... posted by knn |
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Well as far as I'm concerned... this whole forum is filled with girlie men. Now back off while I eat my delicious 9mm bullet and pepperoni pizza. It's a very empty insult, if the governor makes an insult, that's his own personal issue. Shouldn't the actions he take be more important then the things he claims? posted by hungarian kid |
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hungarian kid: Now back off while I eat my delicious 9mm bullet and pepperoni pizza. Is that the one he might deliver or staple to your head? "If you want pizza, i'm not here so...i don't care idiot" posted by Crossfade |
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Yeah, I just found I had that the other night so it's kinda stuck in my brain. posted by hungarian kid |
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Quote: Shouldn't the actions he take be more important then the things he claims? That's TV democracy. So sad. Instead of ruling by statistical trends they rule by TV appearances... posted by knn |
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being written to fill space. There really isn't an awful lot to say here. If Arnie uses a stupid term like 'girlie-men' then it is negative campaigning and reveals his homophobic and childish character. While being immature might not instantly make him a bad politician, it is hardly a good sign is it? [CLICK HERE TO VIEW THIS PICTURE] posted by fatpie42 |
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Definately a non story. But it gives me an opportunity to have a moan. What is Homophobic about the comments? Homophobic people may make similar comments, but that does not mean that anyone who uses such a comment is homophobic. What if a gay person said the same thing? If I think a guy is a pussy, I'll say so, does that make me Genetaliaphobic? I'd like to bet the gay community is less offended by the statement, than by the media spectacle which followed it. These bloody do gooders who inspect everything we say and analyse us based on it. They are the ones making trouble by reading things into everything. It's because of this people are guarded about what they say and so people are less able to judge the truth. When people said what they felt, we were better able to spot the crooks - those who skirted the issues were often seen as a bit dodgy. Like it or not, Honest people spoke their mind. Now because everyone has to choose their words carefully, we can't use the same social clues to spot deception. Everyone is "adjusting" what they say and the crooks are blending in. *** End of Rant posted by Marl64 |
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What would be wrong with the democrats being gay? Remember that girlie men is being used as a term for homosexuals and an insult at the same time - what else is needed for it to be homophobic? Arnie has been shown so far to be a chauvinist and to be greatly troubled by gay marriages. It is very likely that this kind of immaturity will be interfere with his politics on certain issues. The comment 'girlie men' is not the issue. Arnie's attitude in general is the issue. Get rid of the guv'nor! posted by fatpie42 |
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there is no connotation between "girly men" and gay men...if you look at the original context it was about weak men...hans and frans used it to call men weak who were not up to par with their muscle building abilities(am i really explaining this?) i don't know where you guys got "gay" from that... posted by The ONEder Man |
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"you guys are all just girlie men" "hear that roy?" "yep... he thinks we're Japs" The issue is more, who cares and is he doing his job properly, not the stupidity he say's publicly. posted by hungarian kid |
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Actually he is talking the right stuff. Something I have been missing in American politics. Instead of stating things as they are they are using wishwashed words. Imagine yourself calling someone "a girlie man because he has no guts to admit that he's working for special interests". No big deal that would be. Why should it be forbidden in politics? Political correctness sucks from a certain degree on. posted by knn |
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Well Political correctness is just bullshit, it's great when people just be themselves and say what they want. Fuck saying "Persons in particular", if it's a woman, no hard feelings, it's just a bloody habit to say he. posted by hungarian kid |
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The time now is 25 May 2012, 05:15 php B.B. |